Working Group

I) Documenting Seeing the Patient Again

  •  Type of Service:  Progress, LP173213-2
  • Subject Mater Domain:  All SMD's that see patients
  • Setting:  If patient in hospital then use Hospital (LP173065-6).  If patient is in the community as a referral service or primary care, use Outpatient (LP173051-6).  
  • Role:  Any non-physician role
  • Display Name:  
    • If we we use the LCN the display name will be very long e.g.:  Internal Medicine Outpatient Progress Note.  
    • Mix of words used in the community to describe a follow-up note.  
    • If we replace 'Outpatient Progress Note ' with "Clinic", then "Progress Note" can also carry the meaning of 'Hospital ', and we can remove "Hospital" from the inpatient progress notes, shortening all the display names and standardizing the terms.    Internal Medicine Progress Note is from Hospital and Internal Medicine Clinic Note is from a community clinic.   

Agreed :

BW: 5
NS: 4
DL: 5
MK:5
ML: 3

Documenting Seeing a Patient Again

Preferred - HospitalPreferred - Not hospitalExplicit for Primary CareRoll Up TermSummary
Kind of DocumentNoteNoteNoteNoteNote
Type of ServiceProgress NoteProgress NoteProgress NoteProgress NoteNote
Subject Matter DomainAny (must be specified)Any (must be specified)
Family MedicineEmergency Medicine if specified Any
RoleRestricted to any except physician roles such as: Medical Student, Attending, Physician, Fellow etc...
Restricted to any except physician roles such as: Medical Student, Attending, Physician, Fellow etc...
Restricted to any except physician roles such as: Medical Student, Attending, Physician, Fellow etc...SuppressedRestricted 
Setting=Hospital or = LTC for when a patient is an 'inpaitient' or has been 'admitted'= Outpatient for when the patient is not an 'inpatient'.=Outpatient= Outpatient, = Hospital, =LTC or is SuppressedRestricted to Emergency Deptartment when non-physician is author.  
LOINC330 terms315 terms
100465-4
34131-3, 34130-5, or 11506-3Many
Display GuidelineRemove "Hospital"Change "Outpatient Progress Note" to "Clinic Note"Use "Primary Care Clinic Note"Use "Progress Note" or "Clinic Note"
NoteWhen non-physicians are the author, the setting can be the primary attribute since they do not document from a strict SMD point of view.

All types use modified Display Names


II) Emergency Department Visit Note

Discussed at previous meeting

Choice:

1) SMD: Emergency Medicine
Setting: unspecified
Role: unspecified
Type: Note
LOINC: 34878-9

2) SMD: unspecified
Setting: Emergency Department
Role: unspecified
Type: Note.
LOINC: 34111-5

3) SMD: Emergency Medicine
Setting: Emergency Department
Role: unspecified
Type: Note
LOINC: not available

Choice: 1

BW: 5
NS: 4
DL: 4
MK:4
ML: 5

Note:  Although SMD is our primary coding necessity, it is only so for documents written by physicians.   Since the other roles are not so tightly trained to be regulated to work only in certain SMDs, their documents can be classified by the patient's location.  For example, if a nurse writes a note in the ED, the SMD can be suppressed, and the Setting can be used to classify the document.   

General agreement by the working group on this

Documenting an Emergency Visit

PreferredAllowable (Quebec)AllowableRoll Up TermSummary
Kind of DocumentNoteNoteNoteNoteNote
Type of ServiceNoteProgress NoteNoteNoteNote
Subject Matter DomainEmergency MedicineEmergency MedicineSuppressedEmergency Medicine if specified Emergency Medicine
RoleSuppressedSuppressedRestricted to any except physician roles such as: Medical Student, Attending, Physician, Fellow etc...SuppressedRestricted to non-physician Roles and Setting specified
SettingSuppressedEmergency DepartmentEmergency Department
Emergency Department if SMD not specifiedRestricted to Emergency Deptartment when non-physician is author.  
LOINC34878-997669-6
Many
34878-9 and others for when SMD not specifiedTypically 34878-9
Display Guideline
NoteWhen non-physicians are the author, the setting can be the primary attribute since they do not document from a strict SMD point of view.